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Mythic Briton

posted Jan 09, 2013 21:51:50 by Chris
In the Mythic Briton setting, what will the economy be coinage, or a barter system? I'm not even sure what we used, and seeing as it's 'mythic', it could be anything. I know this book could be months away, but I was just curious

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lawrence.whitaker said Jan 09, 2013 22:44:33
Its post-Romanic, so some coins will be in circulation.
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thomas5251212 said Jan 23, 2013 07:08:24
Having done some research on this recently, I know you guys ("you" being whoever is the specific authors of the book) had a hard row to hoe there; there doesn't even seem to be any agreement if heirloom coins were in use too long after the withdrawal of the Romans, let alone which of the rather large variety was still in use.

(This doesn't mean there weren't some still in use of course; its just that no one really knows one way or the other).
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Chris said Jan 23, 2013 09:16:28
The fact is is called Mythic Briton gives you a lot of 'wiggle' room to work with, and that's going to make this setting even more awesome sauce
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thomas5251212 said Jan 23, 2013 15:44:02
Yeah, I know. I'm doing some preliminary work for a campaign set in the same approximate period (though a little bit earlier than I think they're aiming for).

Heck, if anything else, in that place and time you can't _help_ but do a little bit of elaborating; the historical record is, to say the least, scanty, the archeological record isn't always telling, and they sometimes seem to contradict each other. It actually gets a bit better once what are usually called the Saxons arrive...
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jujitsudaveps3 said Jan 24, 2013 02:09:02
I ran a game in 5th century Britain and it was a blast. I kinda thought of it as something akin a post-apocalyptic setting once the Romans departed. As the game went on, society degraded further and further.
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lawrence.whitaker said Jan 24, 2013 03:24:23
I kinda thought of it as something akin a post-apocalyptic setting once the Romans departed. As the game went on, society degraded further and further.


In reality, society continued pretty much as it had for the four centuries before. Its true that a lot of technology and administration the Romans brought was lost, but the term 'Dark Ages' is something of a misnomer and is based on the lack of historical records for the period. The southern Celts had an oral, rather than written, tradition, and so 'Dark Ages' refers to a lack of documentation rather than any apocalyptic degradation of society. But that dark period still allows a lot of freedom in interpreting what happened. The few records that do exist were written several centuries later as the Anglo Saxon Chronicle (itself quite contradictory in places) developed.
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JohnWhite said Jan 24, 2013 21:59:04
I'm assuming the time frame covered by the book extends over several centries. Are there likely to be any recommended starting years for campaigns?
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lawrence.whitaker said Jan 24, 2013 22:56:08
I'm assuming the time frame covered by the book extends over several centuries.


Actually, it doesn't. I've chosen to focus the history on the hundred years from 409 (Roman exodus) to 509 (Saxon advance halted). There's a timeline of events allowing for you to play during Vortigern's reign and the first Saxon influx, although the campaign date will most likely be 490-501, which allows for characters to take part in an Arthurian-era setting. By this time Vortigern is dead, Hengist and Aelle are secure in the east but Cerdic is also making his landing, which sees new threats to the incumbent Celts.

There are, of course, direct parallels with Cornwell's Arthurian novels here, but he also took his cues from the Anglo Saxon Chronicle, so this 10 year period is a really good time for adventuring. Keeping the historical focus narrow also means less work for the GM.
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StevenLeary said Jan 28, 2013 02:20:52
Actually, it doesn't. I've chosen to focus the history on the hundred years from 409 (Roman exodus) to 509 (Saxon advance halted). There's a timeline of events allowing for you to play during Vortigern's reign and the first Saxon influx, although the campaign date will most likely be 490-501, which allows for characters to take part in an Arthurian-era setting. By this time Vortigern is dead, Hengist and Aelle are secure in the east but Cerdic is also making his landing, which sees new threats to the incumbent Celts.


Hmmm... so your actually doing a conversion document for the GPC? ;-)

Actually, this period sounds almost perfect. I would suggest taking things back a few decades though. Starting with the "Great Conspiracy". Rebellious Legionaries, Saxons, Scotts, Attacotti, Cruithin/Picti, along with various other "barbarians" would be the perfect stomping ground for new PCs.

SDLeary
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lawrence.whitaker said Jan 28, 2013 03:29:34
Hmmm... so your actually doing a conversion document for the GPC? ;-)


Not really.

Although I have the GPC, I've quite deliberately not gone back to it in a conscious attempt not to replicate Greg's masterwork.

Actually, this period sounds almost perfect. I would suggest taking things back a few decades though. Starting with the "Great Conspiracy". Rebellious Legionaries, Saxons, Scotts, Attacotti, Cruithin/Picti, along with various other "barbarians" would be the perfect stomping ground for new PCs.


There'll be guidance for campaigns in the earlier decades, but I personally think the range I've chosen fits well. Cerdic has yet to invade, the Saxons are checked but still very active, and the Britons are fragmented. Its a very good era for player characters.
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thomas5251212 said Feb 06, 2013 19:46:06
I may have missed it if so, but do you actually have a time frame for this, Lawrence? I realize you've got other stuff ahead in the queue, so if you don't, that's okay.
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lawrence.whitaker said Feb 06, 2013 20:06:23
Work's started on it, and it will be out this year, but I can't a date on it yet.
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thomas5251212 said Feb 06, 2013 21:49:22
That's all right; I'm just trying to figure out if its worth waiting around for it before I set to work on my campaign set in the same area an approximate period, since that's a way off too.
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Chris said Mar 22, 2013 15:25:16
Anglo Saxon England by Sir Fank Stenton

www.amazon.co.uk/Anglo-Saxon-England-Oxford-history/dp/0192801392

Would the above book be a good primer for Mythic Briton?
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Dreameister said Mar 22, 2013 15:58:48
I think that Loz said earlier in the thread that the time frame for Mythic Briton is the end of V century and the beginning of Saxon invasions, while Stenton's book deals mainly with XI century. However, if it has a segment about Germanic invasions of England, those chapters could be of use.

Cheers,
Marko
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